and my guess is if governor romney is president romney there will be a lot more focus at the treasury and at the budget office in the very near term. >> and you're right. taxing and budgeting and spending is going to be a huge thing. but look, i was there in reagan's first term and it was a hell of a ride with the fed driving -- paul volcker driving interest rates to 20% to conquer double-digit inflation. now, reagan met with volcker on a regular basis. and it turns out reagan gave volcker the ground to stand on to fight inflation. a lot of reagan's advisers disagreed. but the gipper said you do what you have to do, i can't get a recovery, and my tax cuts won't work until we get inflation and interest rates down. okay. now, is it possible that a president romney brings bernanke in for lunches, just the way this game works, or consultations, and says you've got to raise interest rates, i'm getting reports that small businesses can't get hold of all the money, it's just big businesses and big banks? we're getting reports of higher inflation, we're getting reports that the dollar is fall